After the last entry, I received some criticisms and questions via facebook. Therefore, I think, further clarifications would be useful for all of us.
Following the question, Was Gramsci a Marxist?, Ibrahim Efe asked whether or not Marx himself was a Marxist. As far as I know, Marx is believed to have said that "if anything is certain, it is that I
myself am not a Marxist." However, perhaps my formulation of the question was
not very correct. Actually, what I was trying to ask was whether or not
Gramsci was successful in overcoming the liberal-idealist philosophy of
Benedetto Croce - the idealist philosopher who had a significant
influence on Gramsci's early thinking, that is, before he came into
contact with Marxism. I was interested in that question because to a certain
extent, I think, this is a common problem for many
thinkers/intellectuals/ philosophers.
Then Alphan joined the discussion and said: "To utilise Cox's words: the
pertinent question is not: Is Gramsci a marxist, rather it is: do the
inferences which he has drawn from Marx help towards understanding the
historical phenomenon that was the very object of his inquiry. Surely
he differed from the historical economists and had a tendency towards
the historical materialist elements in Marx's work."
Then I answered as follows: "Yes, but to what extent was
it the inferences he has drawn from Croce, or to what extent from Marx
help towards understanding the historical phenomenon that was the very
object of his inquiry? Sometimes, we think that we are utilizing the
ideas, concepts of a certain philosopher, a certain philosophical
system, and criticizing others, but rarely do we realize that we
actually in a way reproduce the philosophical system or the philosopher
we criticize. In some ways, I know that perhaps it is not a very
important question because in the final analysis you're right. Probably
what matters more is whether or not it helps us toward understanding
(and maybe also changing) the social/political phenomena that is the
object of our inquiry. But also, sometimes the boundaries or the border
lines between different theories, different philosophers and
philosophical systems get blurred so considerably, it even becomes
meaningless to continue speaking with the old concepts, such as marxist,
idealist, materialist, etc. I think I saw this problem in Carl Schmitt's critique of liberal democracy as well. When you read Carl Schmitt's criticisms, and then see how he tries to differentiate his
approach, you see that he cannot really succeed in that; he cannot
escape liberal democracy. Also, like Jürgen Habermas
continues to call himself a Marxist. Zizek calls himself a Marxist as well. But then, what
is the limit of Marxism? Can you deny everything, change or ignore many
essential core elements of Marxism, and still consider yourself a
marxist? I mean, perhaps you still can, but what is the purpose anyway? Why would you bother about that?"
And I added: "Furthermore, I think it's
also about being fair to the philosophers whom we criticize. I think
it's not just/fair that we give a lot of credits to Marx in influencing Gramsci's thought, but not Croce."
Alphan: "I dont kow Feyzullah.
Gramsci is a very complex personality as far as I understood. Of course
he had ties with Croce, for example the concept of passive revolution is
directly taken from his writings. I guess Gramsci was busy in moving
beyond Marxist orthodoxy by opening new paths. And I think in this way
he also tried to integrate Croce to his writings. I said he is a complex
human being, for example he had Sorel in mind whilst writing about the
"historic bloc", but Sorel only touches the topic of "social myths" that
move history like the trade union activism or the general strike."
"Furthermore, if my memory is
not misleading me, Gramsci also knew well Croce's interest in Vico and I
even remmember that Pareto helped Gramsci while he was in prison by
sending money. So at the final analysis I agree with you that in
understanding and explaining the development of a philosophers thought
we should try to 'phantasise' as Vico puts his life and the influences
which had an impact on his writings. In this respect, i do think that Croce had a profound impact on his personal and philosophical
development and singling out Marx as the only "mentor" is a misleading
idea."